I respect your pretty well-made arguement in support of Anglophones prounouncing Gaelic, “Gallic”. I can only say, when spoken by Anglophones, the word sounds like a big flat low G in my ear, it clangs like the trolley.

Regarding the origins of the Anglicized spelling of pibroch I can’t say [I'll send this thread to Allan MacDonald - he'll know that - and more] but I do understand that the literature of Scottish Gaelic didn’t come into it’s own until the 18th century, and only then, thanks mainly to the bible. So “piobaireachd” (no accent due to WordPress comment limitations) may not have the grand provenance that warrants careful attention by Anglos.

I think we should be both practicing tunes. Slanj, M.

Unlike the cases of the word “French” and the pronunciation of ‘Cuba’, use of the word ‘scotch’ for ‘Scottish’, or the pronunciation of the word ‘Celtic’ are far from settled in English. Languages are alive, and surprisingly majoritarian. We have a say in deciding the direction they move in. We can influence their direction through insisting on the use of certain words and pronunciations, and the direction we push can say something about us. Sometimes words, spellings, and pronunciations differ because they have different linguistic origins, other times because of historical accidents (as happens with clumsy translations). More often than not, though, it seems that pronunciations and spellings change because of ignorance (including illiteracy) or laziness. In one case, people have a hard time pronouncing a foreign word, so they pronounce something close. If that is effective at communicating the idea, fair enough, though until that pronunciation is established, it will be a distracting and inefficient form of communication. In another case, people may not know how to spell a word, and instead of looking it up, they try to spell it phonetically. Their success will depend on how well they have grasped the original pronunciation, and how strong their command the rules of their written language is. Letters are usually lost or mixed up in this process. In still other cases, people do not have sufficient grasp of the rules of their written language when they try to pronounce a written word they have never heard. “Chimera” becomes “tshimera” (with the soft ‘ch’ and ‘i’), instead of “Kymeara”, as it ought to be pronounced (in Latin or English).

In cases where pronunciations, spellings, and even words are in flux, and where a potential shift is occurring out of ignorance or laziness, why not resist it? How should ‘Gaelic’ be pronounced? It’s not an English word, so perhaps we should look to the phonetic rules of the language the word signifies. If people pronounce it differently in English, we have to ask why. Is it because the same letters pronounced in English have different phonetic consequences? If so, then perhaps we have mistranslated (misspelled) the Gaelic word. We need to find the English word that has a phonetic consequence that matches up with the Gaelic word we are trying to represent. Or perhaps it’s pronounced differently by English speakers just because some people think (incorrectly) that the phonetic rules of English have the implications they read from the word. That’s ignorance (if it is). Appealing to the way native speakers pronounce the word in English (as opposed to in Gaelic), says something about the experiences or influences on those speakers, but not necessarily about whether we ought to follow their lead (they could be under the same misguided influences that English speakers are under). I don’t know where the designator “pibroch” came from, but I’d like to know. Given that I don’t, I’m without a clear stance on whether I should use that spelling, If it is the case that ‘piobrach’ exists just because it’s become a common way to spell the word it’s meant to signify among people who either don’t know how to spell it properly, or who can’t be bothered to remember all of the letters in the original designator, I’d be inclined to resist it, myself. I’d be inclined to resist it because there already exists a designator for the word ‘piobrach’ is meant to designate, and because the later word has been born of unpleasant parents (if it has been).

There is a simple question as to whether a dictionary is meant to be proscriptive, or descriptive. The question is simple because the answer is that it is both. The descriptive fuction of a dictionary is pssive, though, and people often lose track of the value or significance of its proscriptive function. Where terms are descriptively settled in a language, it is functionally irrelevant how they came to be settled. It is a different story when they are unsettled (or have been settled, but are now in flux).